MILOSEVIC TRIAL DISCUSSION ARCHIVE

Is Slobodan Milosevic getting a fair trial?
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• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 12:30 am
  MP

  What does Bush have to do with all this?
  
  J, P
  USA,Wis

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 12:30 am
  Dennis,

  I was interested to see you share my amazement. I was telling a pal of mine in Haut Canada about this on the phone last night about how one of the members of Milosevic’s legal and defense committee actually came on to this discussion board and pointed out - and this has so far been neither refuted nor contradicted - that the people who run two websites supposedly devoted to Milosevic and his cause, were actually telling the public from these websites and from this board not to direct their donation monies to Milosevic’s defense fund, but rather to his prison canteen fund account where it will be useless for funding any activity whatsoever of a legal or political nature, and essentially impounded by the N.W.O. jailkeepers, and that the people advocating this knew perfectly well that this was the case.

  “It was a bombshell!,” I said. “Of course!,” she exclaimed. “it was a scoop, a total fucking scandal!,” I yelped. “Of course!,” she yelped back. “The smoking-est of smoking guns, giving the whole game away about what wreckers they are!,” I said. “Of course!” she replied. There were a lot of “of course!”’s.

  We kept reaching for analogies: “it’s like being the first to cross the picket line and scab, and then trying to run for head of the strike committee!”; “Imagine if you’d told everybody on the Left in the 50’s that instead of giving money to the Rosenbergs’ defense fund, you should just send money to the prison for their toothpaste! The first thing people would be thinking is ‘FBI’!”; “This shows Jared Israel is to the Milosevic support movement what Elia Kazan was to the Hollywood left!” Etc.

  This is just a very decent intelligent progressive person who opposed the Nato war and contributed to Yugoslav causes and petitioned for Milosevic and so on (and didn’t support Kostunica against him and then cry crocodile tears afterward when he got extradited on Kostunica’s watch, like some people I know). She doesn’t affect to be some big-time politico who dubs everyone who disagrees with her an ‘agent,’ and she’s not learning Serbian and practicing how to cuss people in Serbian and pouring over the trial transcripts cuz she doesn’t get much ‘net. But, she had the smarts and the simple human decency to grasp immediately the utterly “cynical” (her word) and “disgusting” (her word) character of this fraudulent “fundraising” appeal. And she’s just a lay person, an amateur, and not a seasoned cyber-militant for Milosevic like the Jurist crowd. But she got it right away, and she completely shares your and my amazement!

  So then I told her of the “reaction” to this bombshell from the various characters and self-appointed “moderators” who pleaded that this lawyer from Milosevic’s defense cttee and the wreckers he was debating and whom he’d exposed as fraudsters - an actual debate, as opposed to the totally non-existent debate over whether SM’s getting a fair trial, which never takes place here cuz everybody is or claims to be parti pris against the Tribunal and for SM, as the Danish guy rightly said - that they scram and take it outside or move it to another site, etc, cuz these cyber-warriors for SM had, unlike this lawyer, important things to say and talk about.

  And I mentioned to my pal the comment about this lawyer’s supposedly “minuscule” fundraising work, even though he’s made repeated trips to Europe and elsewhere to work for Milosevic and his cause and donated 1000’s of $ to the website of a slanderous ingrate whom he believed shared that cause. “Minuscule” - though we’ve yet to hear disclosed the (I gather) more impressive contributions of a financial and other nature to this cause from the lawyer’s critics and catcallers (anytime you’re ready would be fine). My pal had read the lawyer’s numerous fine articles supporting Milosevic and has seen/read/heard his eloquent defenses of SM in the Canadian media. Now, I couldn’t see her jaw dropping or the eyebrows raising in her reaction to all this, but lemme tell you there was jaw-dropping and brow-raising. I just thought you’d like to know that there’s folks like that up here - she’s not the only one. It’s amazing what you can find in the big world outside this board, and especially among mere amateurs.

  I guess visiting and giving and sending legal advice to Milosevic and conducting investigations for him in Serbia and shoveling thousands of dollars into his cause and getting eloquent defenses of him aired in the media pales against the much more exalted efforts of those who check into the Jurist board every day to agree and non-debate and commiserate and open their veins about the bad old N.W.O. What could a lawyer who’s working to support SM possibly contribute to this? And maybe that’s why Jared et al have decided we shouldn’t fund the lawyers any more, which is exactly what’ll happen if we follow the instructions on their websites. As the saying goes, “let’s not bring lawyers into this.” The really important strides are being made right here, where we bring SM one step closer to acquittal with each new blog.

  And there’s some old riddle isn’t there about whether, if a bombshell lands in the forest and nobody’s there, does it make a noise?

  yours in kindred amazement,
  
  P WP
  Bas Canada

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 9:49 am
  
  To whom does SM say money (if any)should be sent in order to help in his defence: And can anyone confrim such a statement?
  
  Peter Taylor
  Herts/UK

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 9:58 am
  
  Bush made a pre-election promise to pull US forces out of Kosovo. They are still there - and by denying the Serbian security forces access to defend Kosovo Serbs from this terror - still supporting Islamic 'KLA' terror there.

  And this in spite of Bush's recent fine words about dealing frirmly with terrorists and those who support terrorists.
  
  Peter Taylor
  Herts/UK

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 10:30 am
  JP .- My understanding is that Mr. Bush is the actual President of the U.S. The fact is to my opinon that, if he would've had the hight of a real world leader lot of things could've been accomplished without a Col. Custer's attitude towards conflicts around the world ,including the previously created ICTY whose only purpouse was to justify NATO's aggression . His predecessors are the ones who can really do nothing about it; or have you seen retired cops giving traffic tickets?. As per having him as President of the sole military power in this world is a far more dangerous situation than a shooting spree in an elevator
  
  M P
  Rep of Panama

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 11:27 am
  I asssume to Sloboda-ICDSM but not to him personally since he can only use it for food. So do not follow the suggestion to send it to him personally, since he cannot access it unless it is for the cafeteria.
  
  Dan B
  Canada

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 11:34 am
  Peter Taylor,

  With reference to your posting of September 11, 2003 at 9:49 am may I draw attention to the fact, that the above statement:

  "THERE IS NO DEFENCE, ONLY PROSECUTION!

  Slobodan Milosevic, September 2nd, 2003"

  as posted above on September 03, 2003 at 12:02 pm,

  while stating that:

  "SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC WILL HELP ALL OF US WINNING OUR BATTLE IF WE HELP HIM NOW",

  is suggesting that:

  "ICDSM and all national committees will give the tone to this action,"

  and referring to:

  ...detailed instructions at:

  http://www.sloboda.org.yu/pomoc.htm

  Accepting that "this JURIST board is...not to be used for fund-raising" I believe that this may be as close as one comes to the confirmation you require?
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 12:06 pm
  MP
  Thanks for your reply, it confirms my suspicion, you are a 'kook'.

  To all
  It's about the 'trial' stupid, not endless sidebar rants.

  Now here's something our 3 judges should read concerning Gen. Clark in the Balkans and who claims as friends. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/980408/posts?page=1
  
  J, P
  USA,Wis

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 1:39 pm
  J,P .- My knowledge of the english language isn't that "academic" will you please clarify what does "kook" means and if you feel somehow "hurt" with my comments about Mr. Bush'es skills as a world leader, well such is life in the tropics my friend you should,ve thought before voting for him.
  
  M P
  REPUBLICA DE PANAMA

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 1:47 pm
  Of course it's about the 'trial'...

  In continuation of Peter Taylor's question concerning 'money' one might also ask, rather more fundamentally, whether at all mr. Milosevic is going to present a classical 'defence' (over and above what has already been successfully achieved through the cross-examinations etc.)?

  Does it make sense to stage a full scale 'defence case' including witnesses etc. - if one does not recognize the Court?

  Would it not, on the other hand, be reasonable to say 'well, - that's it, folks' - if one were certain that Nice, May, del Ponte et al. got it already during the Prosecutions's case?

  One more thing: Wasn't it once suggested, that in fact we are not merely concerned with 'his defence', - that mr. Milosevic is not just 'his own lawyer", but defending the cause of Serbia, Yugoslavia - and the rest of us?

  Only fair to offer (him) a fee, isn't it?
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 2:00 pm
  MP,

  I'm also a "kook" - occasionally. So is J,P! Be proud - and enjoy life "in the tropics" (con cuidado!).

  And then: Back to "trial"...

  By the way: Why didn't you bite on Gogol's little parable about this Panamanian General...(I forget the date)?
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 2:35 pm
  Godfred , "saludos" I still don't know what a "kook" is , as far as Panamanian generals we know pretty well whose creation they were and who the worked for
  
  M P
  Rep. of Panama

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 2:59 pm
  ...crazies, kooks and hate-America zealots...

  http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j020303.html
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 3:36 pm
  ...and for a definition:

  http://home.pacifier.com/~dkossy/kooksmus.html

  Then: Back to the "trial"...
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 4:02 pm
  Thanks for the description , I can deduct from it that , all those who doesn,t agree with actual arrogant world dominating U.S.gov. policies are "crazies,kooks and hate North America zealots" well,to my judgement whoever thinks this way shows a forehead that narrow that ideas crawl to get in their brains . My apologies to everybody for my insistence on this matter and as far as I'm concerned "case closed"
  
  M P
  Rep. of Panama

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 4:41 pm
  You are welcome, MP!

  Now: Is there really any need for a full scale 'defence case' including numerous witnesses etc. in the "Milosevic trial"?

  RE: Posting September 11, 2003 at 1:47 pm

  Would it not suffice to summon mr. Hashim Thaqi and recall mr. William Walker, - to finally clarify the Racak hoax?

  Must it not be taken into account i.a. that the "trial" against mr. Milutinovic, mr. Sainovic and mr. Ojdanic, which is based on essentially the same Indictment, has hardly left off yet?

  RE: Posting September 01, 2003 at 10:59 am

  How to serve Justice?
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 4:54 pm
  

  Milosevic Supporters Return to Power

  Tres à propos
  
  Gogol Charlemagne
  Shangri-La

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 4:59 pm
  MP

  A 'kook' is a oddball. For example, if a 'kook' flunks an exam, and given another chance with an open books test, where the answers are in bold print , he would still flunk, because facts mean nothing to what someone other 'kook' has programmed in his head.

  Mayor Koch, recent stauch Democrat Mayor of NYC, says this time around, he's going to vote for Bush. He is the opposite of a 'kook'.
  
  J, P
  USA,Wis

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 5:14 pm
  Implying that oddballs only would vote for Bush for a second time?
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 5:39 pm
  

  Godfred

  What do they think in Denmark about the assassination of the Swedish Foreign Minister?

  Will it also be investigated in Bosnia, Macedonia?
  
  Gogol Charlemagne
  Shangri-La

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 6:54 pm
  Gogol,

  we still know very little, - hence we think even less. But there is a sadness and fear reminiscent of the aftermath of the Oluf Palme murder...
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 6:54 pm
  Gogol,

  we still know very little, - hence we think even less. But there is a sadness and fear reminiscent of the aftermath of the Oluf Palme murder...
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 7:11 pm
  

  Godfred

  Tak!
  
  Gogol Charlemagne
  Shangri-La

• Thursday September 11, 2003 at 9:55 pm
  This should be added as another charge to the Milosevic indictment - he knew or should have known that the Lindh would be assasinated. Genocide is the killing of an arbitrarily small number of people (even just one) because of their ethnicity, race, religion, social status, or political affiliation. Lindh was killed for one of these reasons. Hence, Milosevic is guilty of genocide or complicity to genocide.
  
  P M
  USA

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 5:02 am
  
  Remember Racak?

  BBC R5 is reporting that this morning Blair/Bush coalition forces have massacred 11 Iraqi poicemem in Falluja.
  
  Peter Taylor
  Herts/UK

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 5:22 am
  
  Post scriptum

  Note Policemen not terrorists as in Racak.
  
  Peter Taylor
  Herts/UK

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 5:28 am
  While CNN reports a series of fatal incidents, counting U.S. dead and wounded, but claiming not to know of any Iraqi victims:

  http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/09/12/sprj.irq.attacks/index.html
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 6:06 am
  CNN reports, that:

  When other U.S. forces arrived on the scene, people inside nearby homes began shooting at them -- and the military returned fire...

  U.S. military officials said they did not know whether anyone inside the homes was hit in the firefight.

  Remember Racak?
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 6:06 am
  Bosnia blowback highlighted once more:

  How we trained al-Qa’eda

  We reap what our politicians sow.

  Q: It is well known that the US is looking to cut its substantial financial contributions to the ICTY in the coming years. Might this not impact upon Milosevic's defense in a number of ways? I doubt that even the prospect of a new election in S&M would benefit his position much...
  
  Alexei Gorbulski
  Brussels
  Belgium

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 3:11 pm
  Del Ponte plaqued by reluctant witnesses "she said a major problem is convincing reluctant witnesses to take stand against Milosevic" .- PLEASE don't insult our inteligencies be fair at least once and admit that you have no case and it's getting harder and harder to find witnesses who can really say something worthwhile against President Milosevic , come down from the cloud you live on and go back to your money laundring cases .
  
  M P
  Rep of Panama

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 4:45 pm
  
  Made in America, supported by Blair

  And foisted on the Serbs in Kosovo: Islamic terror.

  Just what if anything does Blair believe in: He supports Islamic terror in Kosovo and attacks the Iraqis for Saudi sourced al-Qaeda’s atrocities in the USA: There was no Islamic terror in Iraq - only internal Saddam terror instituted by the West - before Blair went to war. And on this point Blair ignored the advice of his intelligence services.

  Today’s outrageous killings of at least eight policemen in Fallujah is only a small sample of the ongoing atrocities carried out by Blair’s coalition forces illegally occupying Iraq:

  There is hardly a US soldier who regards Iraqis as other than sub-human.

  Note in particular the indiscriminate killing of nine women and children at a checkpoint earlier in the year and the later massacre of a crowd of protesters in Fallujah shot down with 15 killed and 87 injured. And especially those killed and injured by cluster bombs and shells during the attack. Thousands of Iraqis killed and injured for no good reason. Disproportionate? The Serbs in Kosovo never did anything worse than this.

  I suppose Blair has now chucked his once much vaunted copies of the Koran into the dustbin. There have been no recent reports of him reading them in public: They have clearly served their purpose.

  Don’t expect to hear calls from the woolly minded ‘liberal set’ for Blair to be hauled before a court - as they did with Milosevic - for his leadership of the coalition forces visiting this horror on the poor people of Iraq. Even though there was a significant difference between the situation facing Milosevic in Kosovo and that facing Blair in Iraq.

  Milosevic had a duty to defend the sovereign province of Kosovo: under attack from Islamic terror foisted on him by Blair and his chums and cemented with massive lies.

  In contrast Blair et alia have invited terror attacks by invading the sovereignty of Iraq in order to control the oilfields. While Iraq descends into chaos nothing stops Basra light crude being shipped out by the millions of barrels each week - at a hugely discounted price set by you know who. This is nothing less than mass murder and grand larceny no matter what fine words Blair finds to spin a different tale.

  It would be more acceptable if Blair were to be honest but after the lies he told about Kosovo we could not expect from him the truth over Iraq. Anglo/US interests have a desperate need to secure oil supplies: The Saudi source is proving untenable under threat from al Qaeda and Caspian sea oil - after Kosovo - is proving not as large, difficult and expensive to implement. So using 9/11 as the flimsy pretext Iraq was put in the frame.

  Instead of truth we get pious claptrap from Blair - who by his actions, as opposed to his fine words, is revealed as a racist and a fascist - about the evil and monstrous Milosevic protecting the outmoded concept of sovereignty in Kosovo. Outmoded that is except when it comes to Anglo/US sovereignty.
  
  Peter Taylor
  Herts/UK

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 8:36 pm
  This is unrelated to this discussion but related to the daily events:

  I have also to state that 9/11 did nothing to me. I was watching the PBS newshour last night where they asked several people to give their observation about the event.

  I am very intrigued. How many people in America today are European immigrants or Asian immigrants? Most of us older immigrants who have lived through WWII, have lived through horrors much larger and more vivid than the 9/11.

  Take for instance my experience. I was 11 when Germans, ( pardon me - Hitler) bombed Belgrade. We escaped the first day from the bombing but the horror stories the various refugee later were telling were gruesome. About 8000 to 12,000 people were killed.

  But the main horror was the execution of men that same year, 1941, in Kragujevac. That included all three classes of high school seniors together with their teachers. Altogether some 7000 souls. That was from the town of 50,000.

  Compare this with 3000 people killed in the trade center from the city of 7 million!

  It must be that Americans have grown up believing in their absolute safety. Wars were faught somewhere else BUT NOT IN AMERICA. How come nobody understood that eventually the wars will be faught on all continents?
  
  D. Jovanovic
  USA

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 9:29 pm
  D.J.- Although I can understand you due that my family went trough the same experience in WWII , any loss of life caused by insanity , fanatism or worst of all invoking the name of God is a scorn to civilization and people that commit this acts lose the condition of human beings . But how can we call those who in the name of "justice" and "humanity" commit worst atrocities than the ones they are trying to punish . or use those so called "crimes against humanity" for nothing else than political domination and apropiation of other nations resources.
  
  M P
  Rep of Panama

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 10:34 pm
  Today at the "trial":

  http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/smorg091203.htm
  
  Andy Wilcoxson
  Washington, United States

• Friday September 12, 2003 at 10:53 pm
  Alexei; Thankyou for the link,"How we trained al-Qa'eda."

  A year ago I posted that the safest place for Osama is under NATO protection in Pristina. The US and the media would be too embarased to admit backing him.
  
  Pertti Lindroos
  Quesnel
  BC Canada

• Saturday September 13, 2003 at 3:24 am
  (1) Noriega, considered "outstanding" at the SOA, is on the CIA payroll (to the tune of up to $100,000 a year) from the mid-’60s to the mid-’80s. (2) His drug trafficking, though known, is no obstacle to his chumminess with George Bush (CIA director and "Vice" President) during the ’70s and early ’80s. (3) His true crime is being an independent leader of Panama, just before the US is obliged to return the stolen Panama Canal Zone on January 1st, 1990.!!!! (4) So after publicly demonizing his longtime friend and employee, Bush slaughters thousands of Panamanians and installs a puppet government, in the nick of time, on December 20th, 1989. ¿¿¿ DOES THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR??? BUSH FAMILY AGAINST THE WORLD !
  
  Juana xoxo
  Panama
  PANAMA

• Saturday September 13, 2003 at 3:42 am
  Such is live in the tropics, Belgrade, Irak, Iran, Liberia,and the list goes on and on and on Show some kind of respect ! all they care is the oil , canal , and all those good things we ve been fighting as a whole in a country , interest, not more than that, telling ya: theres not a free meal when the gringos come and SAVE a country, Gringos want ALL in return, our economy, our banking system, our goverment, all went very smoothly towards the gringo interest: as a country couldnt care less
  
  Juana xoxo
  Panama
  PANAMA

• Saturday September 13, 2003 at 3:49 am
  Call me anti yankee , anti imperialist but it wont be long before the entire world catches up with the insanity this guys are spreading in the world as leaders ...Maybe my kids will live to see it . Mean while , our countries, our goverment are beeing tossed and turned in the name of freedom (BS)
  
  Juana xoxo
  Panama
  PANAMA

• Saturday September 13, 2003 at 6:09 am
  The worlds 'policeman' is at it again:

  An incident in Fallujah, Iraq on Friday morning (mentioned by Peter Taylor, September 12, 2003 at 5:02 am) is now being described by CNN (1) as a shootout between "armed gunmen" driwing a BMW and the towns "security personnel" - with U.S. forces shooting at both parties and others as well, killing at least 10 people "by mistake"...

  Collateral damage? I frankly admit being unable to make much sense of this CNN "report", - and wonder whether anybody in the U.S. would care to sort out the facts this time? What is the U.S. trying to do in the "liberated" country?

  For all the differences between the situations what makes me think of the socalled "massacre at Racak" is also, that Western media reports on that incident in 1999 were entirely incomprehensible too - and that today, more than four years later, a lot of nonsense still form an all important part of the "Indictment" against mr. Milosevic and others...

  (1)http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/09/12/sprj.irq.main/index.html
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Saturday September 13, 2003 at 1:03 pm
  FAIR CONDITIONS FOR MILOSEVIC's DEFENSE

  I have been informed, that around thirty MPs of the Russian Duma have signed a joint communiqué reacting to unfair violations of the fundamental rights of President Milosevic at The Hague.

  Among the signatories would be Gennadi Zyuganov, head of the Communist Faction, Nikolai Charitonov, head of the Agroindustrial Faction, Nikolai Rizhkov, former Soviet Prime Minister and chairman of the Duma Commission for Yugoslavia, general Andrei Nikolaev, chairman of the Duma Committee for Defense and several other chairmen and vice-chairmen of various Duma committees.

  The Joint Communiqué states that:

  "The process against the former President of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Slobodan Milosevic is lasting for almost two years already.

  During all that time, after they have submitted mountains of suspicious documents, brought hundreds of false witnesses and spent hundreds of millions of dollars from the UN budget, the prosecutors of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) haven't succeeded to show any evidence of guilt of the Serbian leader for the alleged crimes.

  The Prosecution undergoes a total fiasco. Soon, the phase of defense of Slobodan Milosevic (who was until now allowed only to cross-examine witnesses of the Prosecution) should start.

  Slobodan Milosevic has numerous and convincing confirmations of his innocence. Nevertheless, the organization of the defense requires serious preparations. The indictment against Slobodan Milosevic has been prepared for more than four years with participation of hundreds of ICTY employees. Slobodan Milosevic presents his own defense in person and alone.

  For preparation of his defense he has the right to use the same amount of time as the ICTY prosecutors spent preparing the indictment.

  "Equality of arms", in fact of conditions for defense and prosecution is one of the fundamental norms of International Law, guaranteed by many documents, including the European Convention on human rights. And that assumes the right for adequate time and necessary conditions for the preparation of defense.

  We condemn the recent decision of the ICTY to ban visits with Slobodan Milosevic by the members of the Socialist Party of Serbia and "Sloboda (Freedom)" Association, the committee for his support. The aim of this decision is to strengthen the isolation of President Milosevic. This is obviously a dangerous measure of moral and psychological pressure against a political prisoner.

  Slobodan Milosevic has to have the possibility to conduct his defense not from the prison cell, but from freedom. Otherwise, an adequate preparation for defense is impossible.

  At the same time, he has to have the possibility to recuperate his health, seriously damaged by the several years of imprisonment, by the exhausting court process and by the lack of qualified medical assistance. We are deeply worried by the fact that Slobodan Milosevic is still deprived of qualified medical care. That creates a real threat to his life.

  Taking all the above-mentioned into account, and also considering the seriousness and the broadness of the accusations, we demand a break in the process against Slobodan Milosevic, lasting at least two years. We also demand his immediate release and return to Belgrade in order to recuperate his health. The persecution of his family has to cease.

  Without fulfilling these demands, the process against Slobodan Milosevic will remain an open political harassment, having nothing in common with judiciary." (relayed as received by)
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Saturday September 13, 2003 at 2:38 pm
  NO TRIAL REQUIRED IF ALL WERE UP TO BUSH's COWBOYS...

  Today the Swedish daily "Aftonbladet" features an article (1) on the U.S. hunt for Saddam Hussein - "dead or alive"!

  "Personally I'd rather see him dead," colonel Joe Anderson from the 2nd Brigade of the 102st Airborne is quoted for saying to AP. This 43-year old cowboy reportedly led the raid in Mosul, where Saddam's sons Uday and Qusay (along with Qusay's teen-age son Mohammed) were summarily murdered on 22 July this year.

  Colonel Anderson says, that he'd give Saddam "a chance to surrender", adding that "he'd prefer to see the former Iraqi leader dead. The choice would be his however..."

  Hm! The Yankee does not see any need for a trial: "What is the virtue of trying Milosevic anyway? It's a mere farce (at The Hague - glj). What does one end up prooving?"

  No, - that at least could be true: What does George W., Joe Anderson and Carla del Ponte, Nice and May end up prooving anyway - other than their own boundless incompetence??

  PS: While ordinary Swedes wonder why their much-admired Foreign Minister, Anna Lindh, was so brutally murdered the other day, they may tend not see this tragedy as a consequence of our acceptance of - and even participation in - the primitive and utterly criminal U.S. warfare in Iraq, Afghanistan - and Serbia!

  (1) http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,360272,00.html
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copemhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Saturday September 13, 2003 at 2:59 pm
  CARLA's SECOND CHOICE - MAY WE NOW LAUGH?

  Carla Del Ponte admits to having "grasped what the Rwandans were up to", and allegedly asked Kofi Annan if she could "choose between The Hague and Kigali"?

  The Secretary General however was inflexible: "No! This trial against Milosevic is too important to be left in the hands of someone else."

  Indeed!

  http://www.mg.co.za/Content/l3.asp?ao=20449
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Saturday September 13, 2003 at 3:10 pm
  Ooops! Sorry,

  if you'd prefer not to join the South African "Kudu Club" merely to hear the latest Carla Del Ponte gossip, then this link may serve you better for the facts about her retention as Chief Prosecutor in the "trial" of the Century...

  http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1041177,00.html
  
  Godfred Louis-Jensen
  Copenhagen
  D E N M A R K

• Saturday September 13, 2003 at 5:55 pm
  I feel really sory for Mr.Annan I wonder if he really thougth that he was chosen to run the UN because of his skills as a negociator , seniority , or maybe it was about time for a black African to be given the oportunity . Frankly Mr.Annan can't you see that you're just a "gofer" your boss says "jump" and all you're allowed to answer is , how high "Bwana". Boutros Boutros Galli's and Perez de Cuellar' shoes are way to big for you to step in , do yourself a favor and go home , retire with dignity,is it worth to take all that aggravation ?, can't you look yourself at the mirror and say "enough of this bull shit"¡¡; think about it
  
  M P
  Rep of Panama