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Former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic is on trial for war crimes in the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia at The Hague. This marks the first time a head of state has been personally prosecuted before an international criminal court.
Is Slobodan Milosevic getting a fair trial?
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- Thursday September 18, 2003 at 12:35 am
On: Wesley Clark's Ties To Muslim Terrorists (...like Hashim Thaqi)By Cliff Kincaid, September 17, 2003
http://www.aim.org/publications/weekly_column/2003/09/17.html
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D E N M A R K - Thursday September 18, 2003 at 4:14 am
Has the US published a list of the al Qaida suspects it is holding in Guantanamo Bay?Is there a reliable source of information which describes the backgrounds of the prisoners?
I suspect that some of the people held in Guantanamo Bay also fought in Kosovo and Bosnia.
If this is the case, then it would be a simple matter for President Milosevic to call these people to testify about their operations in the former Yugoslavia.
It is one thing for President Milosevic to claim that he was fighting al Qaida, it is quite another for al Qaida to admit to fighting against Serbian infidels.
Michael Thomas
London
UK - Thursday September 18, 2003 at 12:44 pm
Michael Thomas,If they fought in the former Yugoslavia that may indeed be a reason for mr. Milosevic to call al Qaida suspects now held in Guantanamo Bay to testify in The Hague about their operations...
Whether that would also be "a simple matter" for mr. Milosevic, I wonder - given the suggested conditions for communicating and preparing the "defense case" from the prison. Well, - in any case that is for mr. Milosevic and his assistants to evaluate and decide (and probably for mr. May and his co-judges to kindly confirm).
I suspect however, that mr. Milosevic may not necessarily command the resources needed to research the "JURIST Trial Discussion" on a daily basis to pick valuable infos posted there, - like that suggestion of yours. In fact on the "JURIST Trial Discussion" a number of individuals have presented a great deal of work, and they may not always have thought about copying this to the President or his assistants, so that it can become of direct use.
The SLOBODA/ Freedom Association however, which back up the President, really rely on people who are able and willing to assist.
May I suggest, that you copy your suggestions directly to SLOBODA/Freedom Association:
e-mail: slobodavk@yubc.net and phone: +381-(0)63-8862301.
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D E N M A R K - Thursday September 18, 2003 at 10:35 pm
MODERATOR -- AGAIN I HAVE TO GO TO A CYBERCAFE TO READ THIS FORUM. Many people who would like to post, are like myself, unable to even read this Please archive the earliest posts from September!
Nikole J
Canada - Friday September 19, 2003 at 3:40 am
I agree, it is practically impossible to get to the bottom of the screen. Please archive the forum every few days. People still post about this trial and do care about it. As a consequence of the lack of archiving, certain excellent posters have been unable to access the forum and provide their imput, such as Vera Martinovic.
P M
USA - Friday September 19, 2003 at 4:35 am
GodfredYou are exactly right. If someone has an idea that might help the defence, then that should be communicated to:
SLOBODA/Freedom Association:
e-mail: slobodavk@yubc.net and phone: +381-(0)63-8862301.
Michael Thomas
London
UK - Friday September 19, 2003 at 7:14 am
Dear Moderator,This is just ridiculous! The first post on this page is dated back to 1st September!
Pasha
Australia - Friday September 19, 2003 at 9:10 am
Is it really "just ridiculous", that people (like Nikole J) finds it very difficult to read this Forum, - while maybe many more (such as Vera Martinovic?) cannot provide their input?May the fact, that the first post on this page is dated back to 1st September not be seen as deliberate obstruction on part of the Moderator?
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D E N M A R K - Friday September 19, 2003 at 9:24 am
This maybe a solution to most of the people that can't read the whole page in this forum. It' low tech but it worked for me. Most telephone lines coming from the jack have two wires for communications. If you change over to four wires from the jack to your plug into the computer, it will speed your connection to what it should be with a 56k modem. My speed went fron 264000 to 47000kb per sec with no other adjustments.
Stevan Todorcevic
Chicago
US - Friday September 19, 2003 at 10:08 am
Hi there Milosevic's people! Have you seen today President Clinton's visit to Kosovo? Just spectacular, he was walking around, greeting the people and not hiding his emotions after seeing how much they appreciate freedom and peace! At least he is being honored for bringing the Serb terror to an end, while Milosevic is being honored by you folks for leading the horror and killing innocent people, both in Kosovo and Bosnia! Have you done any readings lately? Try the latest stories from Belgrade and see how can a man bring an entire nation to misery,like Milo did to his Serbs. You must be crazy or real nationalists to continue this forum!
Rita Weinberg
USA - Friday September 19, 2003 at 10:39 am
Q.- WHO ALWAYS RETURN TO THE SCENE OF THE CRIME?
M P
Rep of Panama - Friday September 19, 2003 at 12:03 pm
So propaganda is wonderful, give the people a lie they love to believe and not reasoning will change faith: Clinton bombed Yugoslavia for 78 days to free the Albanian of Kosovo of their misery!
Bush went to war to free Iraq, and to make the world a safe place! (never mind the weapons of mass destruction which Clinton also searched for 8 years and never found) and do you know why Iraq is in such bad shape? Not because two wars, or ten years of daily bombing, or the 12 years of sanctions and embargoes, oh no, just because it was a state run economy Stalin style !
I am glad that stalin economy rockets are resupplying the international space station (remember Mir?) since the competitive market driven space shuttle has run out of capital.
MODERATOR Please make this page manageable!!!
spasiva
Gogol Charlemagne
Shangri-La - Friday September 19, 2003 at 12:05 pm
CROCODILE CLINTON IN A "PAX AMERICANA" ROAD SHOWEver since February 18, 2002 at 9:00 am - now more than one year and a half ago - when Ramadan Berisha from Kosovo was reacting to the JURIST's question on whether "Slobodan Milosevic is getting a fair trial" by sounding a "Yes!", adding that "I (Ramadan Berisha) think that he (Milosevic) himself should tell everything to the public" I've been waiting for Ramadan Berisha or someone else to follow up on this (or any similar) points of view.
I've been waiting in vain, however, until today when Rita Weinberg of the lone Superpower emerges to suggest, that we - the entire range of JURIST posters - must be "crazy or real nationalists" (September 19, 2003 at 10:08 am).
Sure! Very convincingly Rita urges us to "try the latest stories from Belgrade", noting that former U.S. President Clinton was "not hiding his emotions" when seeing how much "the people" appreaciate the freedom and peace" that Rita (presumeably along with a lot of other Superpoweranians?) believe, that he has been "bringing" to Kosovo.
Well, Rita, I haven't "seen Clinton's visit", neither do I intend to do that; but even without the assistance of CNN I can easily imagine the tears of Clinton and the other crocodiles, - including mr. Hashim Thaqi and his gang. Also I have a clear recollection of President Clinton speaking emphatically to Kosovar "refugees" in some camp in Albania (in July 1999?) after the NATO air war on Serbia, warning them to avoid on their return to Serbia the clusterbombs and other munitions now deliberately spread all over the place in the name of Pax Americana...
I understand that Clinton was somehow "honored" for his rôle in the war on Serbia? May I suggest to Rita, that Ambassador Willam Walker (the old CIA hand who as head of the OSCE Verification Mission in Kosovo did more than anyone else to convince the Weinbergs of this world of the need for "bringing Serb terror to an end") be duly honored as well?
Hi, - why indeed don't you people elect mr. Walker for U.S. President?
Well, - thanks for writing, Rita!
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D EN M A R K - Friday September 19, 2003 at 12:09 pm
Just in case one think our times are just impossible: think of the Crusades and what they did in their way to the Holy Land, specially in the Balkans, the pillaging, killing, destruction and to whom? Not to the infidels but to they fellow Christians!
Ignorants of the World learn something all what you have to loose is your ignorance!
Gogol Charlemagne
Shangri-La - Friday September 19, 2003 at 12:17 pm
Many years ago Pontecorvo the Italian film director who made The Battle of Algiers made another film about colonial power on an island, a plantation island off the coast of Brazil, the name of the film? Walker and he did to the natives of the island exactly what a couple of centuries later another Walker did in Serbia.
Gogol Charlemagne
Shangri-La - Friday September 19, 2003 at 12:21 pm
Rita,If you are ready, willing, & able to provide facts & figures, with citations & references, you are most welcome here. Many on this forum have been anxious for someone to come along and take the other side of the debate -- many who are ready, willing, able, & eager to present facts. If you think you are -- bring 'em on.
M Donne
Canada - Friday September 19, 2003 at 1:40 pm
To Rita:This visit was so important that neither CNN or BBC reported it.
Dakic Ana
Serbia - Friday September 19, 2003 at 1:43 pm
Agreed! Rita Weinbergwould certainly be most welcome on the JURIST "Trial Discussion" forum if able to provide support for the AP story (1) that Clinton "halted a brutal crackdown by Serb forces...(during which)... an estimated 10,000 ethnic Albanians were killed and some 800,000 were forced out of their homes..." in Kosovo.
Let´s hear what's on your mind, Rita!
(1) GARENTINA KRAJA: Kosovars Greet Former President Clinton
Associated Press/Guardian, Friday September 19, 2003
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3167058,00.html
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D EN M A R K - Friday September 19, 2003 at 2:55 pm
RITA .- With all due respect a few questions for you . Do you know who armed and trained the Muhajedeen in Afghanistan? . Do you know who helped Bosnian Muslims start atacking JNA and Serbs and Croats in B&H? . Do you know where these Muhajedeen went after Dayton Peace accord? . And finally do you know who blew the Twin Towers? . When you find all the answers think who was defending his Country against terrorism and who is playing GOD with the future and faith of other nations . And I don't want to go to IRAK - IRAN war and who was backing Saddam Hussein at that time , not to mention "Honest Oli" on the IRAN - CONTRA case , this is about "WILL MILOSEVIC GET A FAIR TRIAL" I think you have to do a little bit of reading , don't let yourself be brainwashed by FOX,CNN,ABC,NBC,BBC,etc and use your own judgement , and I wish you good luck.
M P
Rep of Panama - Friday September 19, 2003 at 3:11 pm
MPRita isn't interested in facts or dialogue, so don't worry about it - she isn't due any respect for that reason. This is not the first time she's showed up. She wants to needle us with her hatred of all things Serbian, not discuss facts. All she accomplishes is to look pathetic and inadequate.
Anna P
California - Friday September 19, 2003 at 3:14 pm
Crocodile, indeed.The one thing that Clinton was never short of is crocodile tears. I'm sure he longed for another reason to produce them. It wouldn't surprise me if he asked for the visit to Kosovo to get himself into headlines again; however, it didn't do him much good. Hardly anyone noticed.
Anna P
California - Friday September 19, 2003 at 3:26 pm
Garentina Kraja: 10.000 > 900 - or not so?While doing "a little bit of reading" Rita Weinberg may wish to include the below references and even seek the assistance of Associated Press Writer Garentina Kraja whom the U.N. Wire - a supposedly independent service - on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 was quoting for reporting on "crimes blamed on Milosevic, who prosecutors say held ultimate command responsibility for the deaths of at least 900 ethnic Albanians and the evictions of 800,000 civilians from their homes." (1)
Granted that 10,000 could indeed be said to be "at least" 900 we (and people like Rita Weinberg?) may still wonder what happened between February 11, 2002, when Garentina Kraja figured "at least 900 ethnic Albanians" (2) and today on September 19, 2003, when from the report on President Clinton's "spectacular" visit to Pristina University we are informed that "an estimated 10,000 ethnic Albanians were killed."
Garentina Kraja should be able to assist Rita Weinberg in accounting for the difference...
(1) Historic War Crimes Trial Opens In The Hague. Tuesday, February 12, 2002
http://www.unwire.org/unwire/20020212/23773_story.asp
(2) Garentina Kraja: Kosovo Victims to Face Milosevic. February 11, 2002
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alb-information/message/27819?source=1
(3) Garentina Kraja: Kosovars Greet Former President Clinton
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3167058,00.html
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D EN M A R K - Friday September 19, 2003 at 3:28 pm
Godfred,Please! No! No! Let's NOT elect William Walker. It's bad enough that Wesley Clark is skulking in the wings. I'm already packing my bags - the problem is where to go. U.S. influence is so broad in this world. My favorite place is Europe but what country's population there has a truer understanding of the travesty committed by NATO? I think we're out of options unless we go to another planet...
Anna P
California - Friday September 19, 2003 at 4:34 pm
Anna P,
Packed already? Call Lost Horizons Traveling ask for James and get your ticket to Shangri-La.
Gogol Charlemagne
Shangri-La - Friday September 19, 2003 at 5:23 pm
Good tip, Gogol.Where is Shangri-La? I know it's not in California, although our media would have everyone believe it is.
Anna P
California - Friday September 19, 2003 at 5:51 pm
Shangri-La isn't what it was
Gogol Charlemagne
Shangri-La - Friday September 19, 2003 at 5:57 pm
Remember James Hilton and his book, Lost Horizons? It's a classic work of Himalayan fiction about some travelers who are hijacked in a plane and land in a remote, snowy place somewhere in Asia. Local people discover them and take them, blindfolded, to a utopian community in the mountains called Shangri-La. In this secret stronghold the people have created a civilization based on the Buddhist principals of peace and harmony. They also live to be hundreds of years old.
American explorers are just fantastic, they are capable of discovering what never existed!, Shangri-La one day, Dracula's castle another. I bet you they will discover themselves one day!Now a team of American adventurers claims to have located Shangri-La in or near Daocheng County. They are reportedly in Daocheng right now, filming with a National Geographic team of cinematographers led by Peter Klika. We are told they have made at least one previous visit.
Gogol Charlemagne
Shangri-La - Friday September 19, 2003 at 9:57 pm
Still waiting for this forum to be taken care of. Why doesn't the moderator at least archive the older posts? Writing from the cybercafe again.
Nikole J
Canada - Friday September 19, 2003 at 10:36 pm
The Health Condition of President Milosevic Requires his Release!By letter dated September 18, 2003 a group of 10 German medical doctors and therapists has again addressed the Tribunal at The Hague demanding that mr. Milosevic be allowed a medical cure and to prepare for his defence in freedom.
Noting that the proceedings against mr. Milosevic has been repeatedly interrupted for health reasons and that this week a session had to be stopped due to an acute attack of heart and vascular disease, the German doctors point out, that "What is relevant regarding this has been communicated already by the cardiologist Dr. P. R. M. van Dijkman, when in his report dated November 18, 2002 he mentioned the possibility of coronary disease, cerebrovascular accident, heart attack and death".
"Recent events compel us to stress your duty to exercise proper care and supervision," the German doctors write, noting that "there is still no regular cardiologic supervision taking place, which to us seems irresponsible..."
While finally there has been a reduction of the number of trial sessions per week and session hours per day, the volume of material produced by the Prosecution is said to have increased by another 400,000 pages, not to mention video and audio tapes. Such a volume is considered impossible to deal with in the allotted time, causing a serious stress factor directly threatening mr. Milosevic's health.
Considering mr. Milosevic's hypertension and increased infarct risk, the doctors appeal to the Tribunal not to practice any kind of "non-comforting" treatment. It is indispensable to delay the proceedings for a longer period with respect to the health condition of mr. Milosevic, - the three months now granted for the preparation of his defence being totally insufficient.
"Mr. Milosevic should be provisionally released for a longer period of time, so that during the preparation of his defence he can have medical treatment and supervision by his long time doctors in Belgrade," the German doctors state.
The letter is signed by the spokesperson for the Initiative, Dr. med. Uta Mader, a Medical Doctor and member of the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW) and by nine German collegues of distinction.
The SLOBODA/Freedom Association (http://www.sloboda.org.yu) is inviting medical doctors from other countries to endorse the appeal or to address the Tribunal on their own.
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D EN M A R K - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 2:00 am
For information: In response to myOPEN LETTER FOR "VOICE OF RUSSIA"
on Tuesday September 16, 2003 at 2:17 pm
I have just been receiving this reply:
Dear Mr Louis-Jensen,
This is just a short e-mail message to inform you that we received your e-mail letter of September 16th, thank you for writing to us. It is nice to know that you listen to the Voice of Russia’s broadcasts.
Your letter will be forwarded to Joe Adamov, the author and host of Moscow Mailbag program. If he includes your question in his question-and-answer show we will inform you of the date and time when you can listen to it on the air.
With warmest wishes,
Please reply to: letters@vor.ru
Sincerely yours,
Elena Osipova
Letters Department
World Service
Voice of Russia
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D EN M A R K - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 6:51 am
On Thursday trial session Mr. Milosevic saying the court was aware of his unusually high blood pressure for the past eight days, asked presiding judge May (NATO) to enforce his own ruling and give him the long weekend (Fri-Mon) as prescribed by doctors every two weeks for his rest.
Prosecutor Nice (NATO) objected on the ground his witnesses could not be held over for such a long time, the troika consulted and reached a compromise decision in that Mr. Milosevic could have Monday off but the Friday session was to take place to finish with the witness, it sounded very much like if Mr. Milosevic was still alive by Tuesday the court will be happy to resume its work.
Hours later the ICTY released a notice saying the trial was postponed Friday and Monday because the accused health.
Gogol Charlemagne
Shangri-La - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 8:10 am
If the ICTY persists in their handling of Mr. Milosevic's health problems they will confirm what Gabriel Garcia Marquez wrote as "CRONICA DE UNA MUERTE ANUNCIADA" and it will be sole responsability of the ICTY and "bwana"Khofi if Milosevic dies before even starting his defense , and frankly Mr. Annan as a world Diplomat you are a good conga player.
M P
Rep of Panama - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 2:39 pm
Cast in stone: Lest we forgetNot many years ago I visited the Thiepval Memorial in Northern France: The memorial contains the names of 73,357 British and South African men who have no known grave and who were the victims of an aggressive war in the Somme region of France between July 1916 and 20 March 1918. Like so many other such monuments it is an honest endeavour of remembrance. When remains are discovered and identified the name is removed from the Thiepval monument and assigned to an individual grave.
What follows is not to belittle the grief of the genuine victims of the civil war in Bosnia. But how can one commemorate the slaughter of 8,000 Muslims when in eight years of searching only some 1,000 victims have been identified: of the some 4,000 remains located how many will be found to be Serbs or Muslim victims of Muslim attacks?
Where is the list of names of the 8,000 missing victims at the memorial site and what is arranged for their reassignment when identified as at monuments such as Thiepval?
Making a mockery of war memorials: So what do we make of the Srebrenica monument to the massacre of 8,000: a tribute to disinformation: How can one ‘Lest we forget’ a lie?
What can we make of a memorial of which the Bosnian Serbs, victims of Muslim atrocities, were “ordered” to contribute more than one million dollars to cement a lie against them? What plans have been made to commemorate the thousands of Serbs victims?
Will Clinton return to Bosnia for the unveiling of a monument to their great ‘hero’, Nasir Oric, once he is absolved of his crimes by the ICTY?
One day no doubt there will also be a monument to Billy Liar himself noting his impeachment for being economical with the truth.
Peter Taylor
Herts/UK - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 4:11 pm
Post scriptum: I forgot "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/decani/message/77212"> 'The Hidden Hand'!
Peter Taylor
Herts/UK - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 4:13 pm
The Hidden Hand
Peter Taylor
Herts/UK - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 4:25 pm
Mr Gorbulski you are right it is circus time again. Real scandal is that millions of Euros will be wasted on another failed election in Serbia.But I dont want it to fail. I will vote. But if you look at all the political scandals in Serbia its not fault of Serbian people for not wanting to vote.
Moderator thank you for making me wait for a week to see this page!
Arandjel Pasic
srb - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 7:59 pm
MILOSEVIC ON TRIAL FOR WAR CRIMES?When the JURIST's "Milosevic trial news" automatically registers that Billings Gazette, MT (and scores of other provicial papers) have it that "Thousands greet former president Clinton as he arrives in Kosovo", then that's got nothing to do with Clinton of course, or with Hashim Thaqi or other Kosovar war criminals for that matter, but with the fact that an Associated Press writer, Garentina Kraja, did not fail to include something like this: "Milosevic is now on trial at a UN tribunal in the Netherlands for atrocities committed in Kosovo and other Balkan wars."
Garentina Kraja did not mention however, that William J. Clinton is no longer under investigation for atrocities committed in the White House, - so maybe that's in fact what he is?
(Now let's see if/when this "comment" is picked up by the Billings Gazette, MT, the Google News - and eventually even by the JURIST "Milosevic trial news"...)
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D E N M A R K - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 8:28 pm
CLINTON REMEMBERED SREBRENICA DEAD,- and CNN's Christiane Amanpour dutyfully included in the report, that "Meantime at the War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague, Slobodan Milosevic...is charged with a host of war crimes including genocide for what happened in Bosnia." (1)
The JURIST's "Milosevic trial news" is sure to pick up Mrs. Amanpour's crap...
(1) http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/09/20/srebrenica.clinton/index.html
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D E N M A R K - Saturday September 20, 2003 at 8:35 pm
President Milosevic has been charged with the murder of former Serbia President Stambolic & attempted murder of Serbian Renewal Movement leader Vuk Draskovic -- just as Clinton is receiving accolades in both Bosnia & Kosovo. The spin is back in full force, presumably to support Wesley Clark, and, quite possibly, Hillary.On the upside, I thought Blair looked a little green around the gills at his meeting with Chirac & Shroeder (sp?).
M Donne
Canada - Sunday September 21, 2003 at 10:08 am
Here is a question: Did President Bill Clinton ever pay a visit to Auschwitz. I have found reports that Hilary did but I can not find any record of Bill being there. However he finds time to visit Kosovo and Srebrenica (Bosnia) on numerous occasions. I find it insulting that he NEVER (I might be wrong) visited Auschwitz. It might put things into perspective. Talking about self-promotion.
Dakic Ana
Serbia - Sunday September 21, 2003 at 10:15 am
However: President Bush toured the former Nazi death camps at Auschwitz and Birkenau before traveling to St. Petersburg
Dakic Ana
Serbia - Sunday September 21, 2003 at 11:40 am
Whatever witnesses for the Proscution remain to be examined, that is not going to change the NATO's case for the better, - and it could hardly change it for the worse, either.Hence mr. Milosevic might simply file a motion for acquittal on all charges as soon as the Prosecutor’s case is closed (and prior to embarking on prepairing any presentation of evidence on his own).
The Trial Chamber shall order the entry of judgement of acquittal on such a motion - or if it finds that the evidence is insufficient to sustain a conviction anyway.
Godfred Louis-Jensen
Copenhagen
D E N M A R K - Sunday September 21, 2003 at 12:56 pm
There is no doubt such a motion to dismiss will be filed either by Mr. Milosevic or by the amici curiae . It is not only in the interest of Mr. Milosevic but also in the the interest of the court and at the very least some of the counts will be dismissed. Judge May (NATO) will bear much pressure from his English mate Mr. Nice (NATO) but I hope he sees the
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Gogol Charlemagne
Shangri-La- Sunday September 21, 2003 at 4:53 pm
I walked into my local Barnes and Noble as I entered there was this picture of a ugly vulture smiling at me, above the picture were the words MADAME SECRETARY.If you are as disgusted as I am those books MADAM CRIMMINAL,WAGING MODERN WAR CRIMES,and LYING HISTORY will just sit on the shelves to collect dust.It is an injustice that Slobodon Milosevic is incarcerated while these villians who started the conflict enjoy themselves by making profit and publicity. http://www.washtimes.com/commentry/20030918-073343-2743r.htm http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34685
Jason Jurich
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USA- Sunday September 21, 2003 at 10:32 pm
So Iraq is about to allow foreigners to control and own all its land labour and means of production except for oil and mineral rights!Not a bad effort by the Bush boys. Like Clinton, they bomb the daylights out of a country and then walk in and make themselves at home by installing puppets to run the show for them, DEMOCRATICALLY of course!
Shades of what happened in YU, isn't it? Milosevic was in the way so he had to be removed. Saddam was in the way so he had to be removed. Now we're looking at Iran and N Korea. They're not playing ball so they are obviously the next targets. Seems that if you don't do as you're told you're dead meat.
Slobo will at least earn the right to be the first martyr against the New World Order.
The motto is, privatise or perish = Sell your ass to the rich and powerful for a pittance so they can then screw you for free and "in perpetuum".
And our free press and media just watch and applaud this strategy, worse still, even contribute as accomplices by knowingly spreading myths and fables about democracy and Nirvana in "liberated" countries such as Serbia, Afghanistan and Iraq. Makes you want to puke!
David
Oztralia - Sunday September 21, 2003 at 4:53 pm